I was recently laid off (mass layoff for budget reasons, nothing personal) from my job, so like anyone in this situation, I immediately filed for unemployment. I’m not sure what the typical protocol is in most states, but I live in NJ, and it takes 5 weeks to actually complete the filing process. I had my telephone interview on Wednesday. The man on the phone didn’t ask one question actually regarding my job, it was all about my current schooling. I’m a full-time student, but it’s all online. He wanted to know how many credits I’m taking, what classes, what my major is, when I’ll graduate, how I’m paying for school.. He was very nice, and I certainly didn’t want to "bite the hand that feeds me" in a sense, so I kindly asked what any of this had to do with UI. He had no answer, just mumbled something to the effect of "just questions we have to ask".
So I get a letter in the mail, stating that I am disqualified from UI benefits because I’m a full-time student. I would really like to know what schooling- whether it’s full-time, part-time, online, on campus, whatever- has to do with the fact that I worked for a company for 3 1/2 years and was laid off. The wording and "reasoning" in the letter don’t even really make sense to me. This was one of the other reasons listed:
"You are a full-time student for Criminal Justice/Forensics. Your training could not be approved. Your training is not for a labor demand occupation."
"There is no proof that you had sufficient earnings outside vacation and holiday breaks from school to establish a claim for benefits. You are a full-time student. You are disqualified for benefits."
Um.. what? I don’t even understand what the second "reason" is alluding to. It’s so poorly worded that I’m not even sure what it means, but whether I’m majoring in Accounting or Gameboy, it still does not take away from the fact that, as I stated earlier, I was laid off from a job that I held for nearly 4 years. If anything, I thought it would strengthen my need for UI benefits, since I have additional expenses (e.g. tuition, books). Also, it’s not like I’m some 19 year old living on campus and using my job’s salary as Natty Ice money. I’m a 25 year old adult that has responsibilities and bills to pay.
I definitely plan on appealing this, but I guess the reason that I’m posting this is because I wanted to know if there was anyone else out there with a similar experience. Do I actually have a chance of winning the appeal? It appears as though it’s a written-in-stone rule with NJ UI that full-time students can’t be compensated. I find this "rule" extremely frustrating, especially since I have a friend who, in the past 6 years, has been FIRED twice for stealing. Each time, it was made clear to UI that she was fired for stealing. She was able to collect UI each time, and actually got numerous extensions for each claim. The last time she was fired for stealing, she was able to collect UI for 99 weeks, and had to do very little on her part to get these extensions. But, I digress, so before my blood pressure skyrockets even more, here is something else I am wondering about: I will actually be obtaining my BS in a few weeks when this current semester is over. After that, I will no longer be a full-time student. Do you think there is a chance that I can start collecting UI once my student status ceases?
Thank you in advance to anyone who offers their two cents. Any sort of tips or guidance are welcomed!
"So your question is… where is my handout?"
No, my question is, where is a fraction of the pie that I have paid into since I was 14? Why am I penalized for wanting to better myself through higher education, while irresponsibility such as having multiple children that one can’t afford is rewarded? I have never once collected any sort of government aid.
"Unemployment Benefits are emergency funds to support the basics for a household. The job you had lost has nothing to do with it."
You seem to believe that you know a lot about my situation from what limited information I shared. I have rent, food, and utility expenses. If those aren’t basic, I’m not quite sure what is. Please enlighten me as to how my former job has nothing to do with Unemployment Benefits. I’d love to hear it.
"If you are so desperate for funds then quit school and start looking for full time work."
I’m not sure how quitting school would affect my situation. As I stated, it’s all online. I worked a full-time j
"So your question is… where is my handout?"
No, my question is, where is a fraction of the pie that I have paid into since I was 14? Why am I penalized for wanting to better myself through higher education, while irresponsibility such as having multiple children that one can’t afford is rewarded? I have never once collected any sort of government aid.
"Unemployment Benefits are emergency funds to support the basics for a household. The job you had lost has nothing to do with it."
You seem to believe that you know a lot about my situation from what limited information I shared. I have rent, food, and utility expenses. If those aren’t basic, I’m not quite sure what is. Please enlighten me as to how my former job has nothing to do with Unemployment Benefits. I’d love to hear it.
"If you are so desperate for funds then quit school and start looking for full time work."
I’m not sure how quitting school would affect my situation. As I stated, it’s all online. I worked a FT job up unti